Its now my mission and purpose in life. Required fields are marked *. I use to carry a Dan Wesson .357 Magnum in service for a PD. Ive owned numerous G 9mms over the years and they are all gone. I spent all of 2008 in Iraq again as a private contractor defending a base. Customize This * * * * * There a lot of spring kits and trigger kits on the market. A dual recoil spring can slightly change the recoil impulse, but only so much. So until laws change, I think Glock will continue to produce them. Stuffed it full of Barnes 230 gr copper hollowpoints. With the mag removed, you only have a two-finger grip on it and your hand becomes the magwell in the event of a reload. Had a G30S. A lot of people that customize the Gen 3 put an extended magazine release on their guns, so Glock just did it for them. Now THAT was a boat anchor. Your email address will not be published. The officers ACP was similar in size and shot rings around the 36 for me. The Gen 3 mags have the notches only on the right side. I suspect that Europeans failed to grasp the .45 bore because they are still largely essentially serfs living under the will of their governments and as a result gravitated towards smaller, weaker rounds designed for deterrence and not self-defense. Safety Equals Practice. Well, better is very, very relative. boilergonzo Felons, Feinstein and Facts: How Criminals Get and Use Their Guns, Buh Bye! The Gen 3 fits my hand (mostly) and I have huge paws. The GLOCK single stack magazine allows for a slim frame and a slide with reduced width. The single-stack magazines of the GLOCK 36 holds six rounds plus one in the chamber. Whether it's a lighter trigger, better sights, or something more radical, you will find many aftermarket upgrades. And yeah, Ive had my pinky bitten on quick mag changes but not shooting. Given proper care and maintenance, either Generation of Glock will serve you well. Overall I found that the G36 was not especially accurate given its intended role. I bought my Glock 36 in 2001(DTH 194). This was the same for GLOCK in the early years. The dual recoil spring on the Gen 4 weighs in also. GLOCK believes in responsible gun ownership. Buy custom GLOCK accessories and more on the Team GLOCK Store. Velocity is the average of ten shots and accuracy is the average of three, five-shot groups at 15 yards. C. cjcharvet . But with my experience I have more confidence in the Gen 3s straight out of the box. You mentioned your Gen 4 had issues this year resulting in carrying your Gen 3. I broke the trigger (story here), more wore it out, I think. Thanks for sharing your insights Ben! The weirdest thing to me is that Glock actually makes the shorter mags for the 30 they hold 9 rounds instead of 10, but they make it short enough to feel like youre carrying a thicker G26 with a slightly longer barrel. The dimensions of the entire trigger housing had to be modified to fit the smaller Glock 19 Gen 4 frame. I have a lot of Corps Brothers who would love to have a weekend training session with another Brother. Havent shot the G36 but own a XDS and shot a buds Shield. What problems, could it be the EFK Recoil Spring system? I find the G36 easier to manage and am able to shoot it better so it is my carry gun. And since Glock stopped at Gen3, the future is limited, too, but Ill still have a place for it in the safe. From holster to target. At the same time, the texture is not going to snag on gloves. I fired 100 rounds to break it in, and then 400 at a class. The grip is a little different. Ive had a G36 since 2012. I agree with your evaluation but I like my gun. It just wasnt new, sexy plastic. Have fun with it. Its a good choice. The newer grip has a rougher texture than the Glock 19 Generation 3 model. Specifications: GLOCK G36 Caliber: .45 ACP Capacity: 6+1 Rounds Barrel Length: 3.75" Overall Length: 7" Sights: Polymer U-notch Weight: 22.5oz with empty mag Street Price: $550 Ratings (out of five stars): Accuracy * * I was expecting a bit more from the G36, but I wasn't to be rewarded the way I had hoped. It might also have to do with that non-snappy, push-punch of the .45. Is this a come-on or a good service by Glock. While completely and utterly late to the single-stack subcompact 9mm party, it still became one of their most popular pistols to date. Why shouldn't our handguns be offered the same way? Barrel Length: 3.75 I would most likely get the Gen 4 because it has features that I prefer over the Gen 3. In a short time, the Glock name spread across the ocean into America. This means that not only with the Gen 4 not only shoot easier, but it will last longer too. Gaston Glock, who had no prior experience in gun manufacturing, was indeed an innovator. The Gen 4 measures 7.95 in. Good luck explaining why you shot a little kid across the street. We dont belittle people and their thoughts here. Also the god damned magazine pinched my pinky all the time. Now I want to bring that experience and my joy of teaching to others. After that the Glock 36 is just fine. They measure the height of the pistol sans magazine. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Internally they changed a couple things. He does custom stuff so if you just tell him no more Glock Knuckle hell hook you up. But you probably shouldnt put a kit in a carry gun. Just like the gun better. Along with all the standard models such as the Glock 19 Gen 4, the fourth generation of Glock pistols also introduced the Glock 43. Not fun. A better option to than trying to interchange the slides between the Gen 4 and Gen 3 is to upgrade the either Gen with aftermarket Glock slides for improved performance, racking grip and look. And, honestly, many shooters would never even think about changing them. 1. The bangs just stop a lot sooner. Im with you, for some reason I just keep going back to the Gen 3. At its core, the Glock is a Spartan, all business handgun that is a pleasure to carry and shoot. Thinking of getting a gen 4 17 or 22. The gun doesnt feel very secure during this process and forgetting where your pinky is can result in a painful pinch. I also have the pearce +1 mag extensions so I can have a full 5 fingered grip on it. You can take a dermal tool or a sanding block to the frame, its only plastic. I took the trigger down to 2.5 lbs. There are a few parts when it comes to Glock 19 Gen 4 upgrades that are compatible with the Glock 19 Generation 3. Nope. The advantages the Gen 4 has over the 3 is the thinner grip to start and then you can add size, bigger and changeable mag release, and more texture on the grip. The 20/21s are ergonomic nightmares (but still own them), but I just completed a polymer 45 that feels much better (and 50 out the box 100% reliable). Nothing is changed internally or really all that substantially; the gun is pretty much the same except for some surface changes. He said if I couldnt get it done with 7 rds I probably couldnt do it at all. This is one of the features that moved Glock to the head of the pack. All Gen 4 guns come with 3 magazines, whereas only the blue label Gen 3 guns came with 3 - white and red label come with 2. My other gripe is my pinky get pinched between the bottom of the grip and the mag. Its been over 10 years since I bought my 1st gen Glock G36 Slimline because at the time it was the smallest .45ACP I could find. I have run nearly 100,000 rds through this gun. This allows for shooters with a variety of hand sizes to comfortably hold and fire their Glock 19 Gen 4. You can change the trigger bar from the Gen 3 into the Gen 4 or the other way around. Im not use guns but my partner surely does! Gen 4 guns use a "dot" connector instead of the Gen 3 unmarked connector. In addition to providing three luminescent dots to aid in low light use, the Trijicon sights also provide a needed upgrade over the factory plastic sights: steel . I actually changed the one in my carry gun out for an EFK Dragon spring. The first couple emptied mags reminded me why I liked this gun so much years ago, and it really comes down to one unique feature, the grip shape. I like the thinner gun profile, thinner grip . It is possible to install the connector for a Glock 19 Gen 4 into a Gen 3. It also feels like they changed the trigger somewhere in there. I love Glocks and still the Glock 36 was one of my least favorite pistols Ive ever shot. Someone else mentioned the Colt Officers ACP. And Ive never met a Glock trigger that Ive liked. I shoot a whole lot, obviously. This makes it the ideal everyday carry weapon. The Gen 3 is clunky and heavy, recoiling with more force than modern Glock shooters are accustomed to. But mainly the grip is different because it is a little shorter and then you can add back straps to make it bigger. But there will always be parts for the Gen 3 and I think the guns will be made for a long time. That would be another reason to have the versatility of changing the size of the handgrips. Cheers! for me the G19 Gen3 is the best i have ever owned or shot. But if I was stuck with only the Shield I would be just as happy. The .45 ACP in this pistol just had way too much ass on it. Save Share. Glock set the standard and most other striker fired guns are following glock example. Expand your knowledge and make educated decisions to You may love the new texture or hate it. Aesthetics * * * Yes, you could add oversize mag release button to an older Glock, but if you buy a Gen 4 they have already done it for you. The differences are few. Heck no. If I were to bite the bullet , and buy a Glock for carry purposes; I would probably cold carry it. I bought a G36 early on, thinking it would be a lighter replacement for my Colt Officers .45. Let me follow up on my last post regarding the Glock 36 being small the wife called me up and wanted me to join her and her girl friends out and about. The Gen 4s are not legal in all 50 states. Should you buy a Gen 3 or a Gen 4? If you happen to be a southpaw or like to practice firing with your off hand, then the ambidextrous mag release is definitely a factor. The guy who wrote this article really did a dis-service to a fine handgun. I have no idea how you can carry the pistol to get slide bite. Some Gen 3 models are available in a factory threaded barrel version (to support compensators and . Also, is there a trigger upgrade, spring upgrade available? Everything else is just not worth talking about. I fired the G36 over my Oehler 35P chronograph at a distance of five feet from the muzzle. The limited capacity is another issue with the pistol. Apologies, southpaws. So buy the one you want and enjoy it. But have been told flock is a great weapon, so what size please, suggestions. Dumb design. The next of the Glock 19 Gen 4 upgrades to the grip was its texture. Id be surprised if they arent already hard at work on just that. That's a price difference that is also cost saving. The answer, like most gun questions, is that it depends. I carried it on duty for two years no complaints. I have one on the way. It will be easier to operate and hold. Yours is not. The Gen 4 is the first of the Glock 19 Generations to use a larger, dual-recoil spring guide rod. Glock Gen 4 Generation 4 pistols have few changes from the Generation 3 model guns, but have the addition of the Glock Modular Backstrap system. Some even swear by it over the newer generations. 41 Replies to "Glock Gen 3 vs Gen 4" William T.Farrow says: September 10, 2017 at 04:49 . One of the ones Ive admired is Dale Honeycutt near Houston. So, this is one of these things that just because you can do it, why would you do it? Ill be buying more of them. I can drive nails with it at the range. However, doing this will significantly alter the trigger pull weight for the weapon. Right now they are still on Glocks web site. This time, Glock Gen 4 pistols use a flat-cone-like type of checkering which provides similar levels of grip traction while being more comfortable to grab on to and easier on the hands when. At present, generation three and four Glocks are readily available in the United States for new purchase. Yes its uglyits a Glock, Get Pearce grip extension to add +1 capacity, Aftermarket items are the key. However, a lot of Gen 4 guns will be in and out of police trade-in inventory at various dealers, shops and so forth on the used market. Makes for an effective CCW that you can trust. However, there are a couple of small extras that were thrown in over the previous generation. This Product can expose you to chemicals including lead, which is known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. People generally lean either toward love or hate when it comes to a Glock. They weren't referred to as such until the Gen 4; the Glock Gen 3 guns were just called "Glock" pistols. Every one of your responses reinforces my opinion. And the G36 has the characteristic GLOCK trigger pull thats frequently described as mushy. The owner never got Glock Knuckle for him. The finish is the same on the Gen 3 and 4. The first thing I thought getting it out of the box was, WHAT is this dumb mag basepad for ? I do have extended grips on my Glock 36 magazines but have not had the skin pinching problem others have had, dont know why. Glock Gen 4 improvements weren't nothing, but didn't exactly reinvent the wheel. Being a cop never worked out, but through it all Ive always been training people to fight. The thing about Glock Gen 3 vs Glock Gen 4 is the guns are almost identical; it's just that the latter has a few more bits of kit than the latter, and at that not a heck of a lot. I dont like plastic, although if I were going to buy a Glock I would get one of the hi capacity 9mms, I dont like 9mms either but a pistol that holds almost a box of shells would be comforting. The new mag release button is larger than the ones found on the previous Glock 19 Gen 3. The accuracy is typical of glock (Its good) As accurate as any of my other Glock pistols. Got rid of the 36 in some long forgotten gun deal. My middle finger under the guard gets rubbed almost raw if I do any significant amount of shooting with my glocks. The Gen 4 line, however, was explicitly referred to as Gen 4. Much better accuracy and a little more punch. I dont know what Gaston was thinking. The medium back strap makes the grip the same size as the Gen 3. A G36 with a flush 5 round mag would be really useful to me, but without that Id rather have a Shield. Its a little bit of pain but worth the $100 if they have the one you want. Yes, mag changes are a PITA. Trigger pull weight is reduced to 2lbs 15oz when paired with the M*CARBO Glock Gen 3-4 Spring Kit. Thats why they make the thin and easy to carry extra mags. Youd have to have kid hands for your finger to fit in there. But so far, there are only 9mms so far in the Gen5 line. Capacity: 6+1 Rounds Im not the strongest person, but not a wimp either, but I can actually squeeze hard enough to make the grip flex on the Gen 4. Just Bidded on one, might win might not I hope I win really looking forward to getting a G36. It sounds like the EFK spring system could also fix my malfunction and give the recoil reduction, BUT might not be strong enough when coupled with the piston/dual action function. I carry my Gen 4 daily. Sure my Smith M&P 45 is more comfortable to shoot as it is a very nice gun but it is much bigger [more of a hassle] than the Glock 36 to carry. Semper Fi! Just hold it as high as you can on the grip. Its far bulkier than it needs to be and isnt kind on the eyes. The GMBS, as it were, is swappable backstrap panels to customize the fit of the pistol to the shooter. You can get a gun for about $100 cheaper. Probably due to the difference in for of the upper part of the grip and new texturing pattern. Granted, some people don't like that as much; some pistols feel almost like the gun could double as a low-grade rasp and that's annoying. It was accurate, for one shot but followups were slow and sometimes required readjusting my grip. The extensions defeat the purpose of the gun by making the grip longer and far harder to conceal. I know the correct trigger housing pin for the Gen 4 19 without the backstrap is manufacturer # 1774 and it is also called the 21mm pin because it is 21mm long also known as the Glock 36 pin. (1911 grips, am I right?) That and ruger pistols and revolvers are what I have in the stable. Never a bad idea to sharpen the skills with good training. Initially unnoticed, the Glock platform created an entirely new class of handgun that many have grown to love. I walked in the place with two knives and a .45. Feudalism has never fully left the spirit of many European states and the most common guns there are developed for use by governments, not individuals. It is not perfect but is a good reliable gun. I completely disagree with bad ergonomic ratings. Returning to the southpaw shooter, the Gen 4 magazines have notches on both sides, so the mags will slide out. Oh, by the way, do make sure the weapon is cleared before doing this, you do not want to become a statistic. Its either going to break right away or last for a very long time. I am casual shooter with small hands. No Im not a glock fan boy my EDC is a Sig 365 XL, At the moment, Glock is still selling the Glock Gen 3 pistols as well as Gen 4 and Gen 5. I have to agree with you. And a bonus its easier to keep my thumb off the side stop, so the slide always locks back after the last round. It feels smoother and lighter to me. It works great. Spray and spray hi cap 9mms? The new mag release button is not only larger, but it extends farther back to allow for much faster, easier mag changes. Glock makes some minor revisions every so often to their basic design, leading to a new "generation" about every 10 years or so. The same holster works for the Glock 19 4th Generation pistol. Now I have about 1500 rounds through it. The dealer gets it for a special price and the guns are marked and can only be sold as Blue Label guns. That is evident when looking straight at the muzzle, there is a bigger hole that you cannot miss. Ergonomics * You can contact him at gripreductions.com. Both versions were and still are typically reliable, with the G36 being my favorite due mostly to the narrower shape of the grip. Have not experienced any recoil or issues getting back on target with the second round. Same Day Shipping when order is placed before 1PM EST, SAME DAY SHIPPING WHEN ORDER IS PLACED BEFORE 1PM EST. Start browsing our selection of, AR-10 / LR-308 Complete Upper Receiver Assemblies, Shop All Complete Upper Receiver Assemblies, Shop All AR-10 / LR-308 Complete Upper Receiver Assemblies, Shop All AR-10 / LR-308 Upper Receiver Parts, Shop All AR-10 / LR-308 Lower Receiver Parts, Shop All Handgun Barrels & Muzzle Devices, Shop All Bipods / Monopods & Accessories. Is there anything else youd like to hear about? I bought my Gen 4 before Glock offered the beaver tail. 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