Mamamoo Has Been Receiving Hate Storms- And It's Only Getting Worse. if(document.querySelector("#ads")){ Hwasa's most recent callout stemmed from her latest comeback with the track 'Maria', a song that delved into her own struggles with mental health and being on the receiving end of severe hate. Even if it was a joke or a passing, it wasnt very funny. As Ive said before, I dont know everything, and I try to provide sources for what I post, but Im a bit cynical and I can sometimes put too much trust into what other people say, so please, please, please call me out if you notice me spreading misinformation (it will always be appreciated) and I will update the masterpost. As for the criticism of my post in your tags, I still feel like it was appropriate to include the Kris thing, though I understand why some people dont think its offensive/problematic. Another thing referenced against Hwasa is the occasion she dressed up as a clown. Ive seen multiple times that idols should know better because they have internet access and should know why the n word is bad or why blackface is bad. ga('ads.send', { However, this became a lot more unlikely when a second video was released, titled censored version, which did not include the supposed autism comment. ga('ads.send', { I will definitely admit that it was very sloppy and not well researched. Notifications can be turned off anytime from browser settings. 2. Not saying they should be excused for the things that have hurt other peoples feelings, but I dont think causing controversy or hurt would ever really be their intention for anything. MAMAMOO debuted on June 18, 2014, along with their single "Mr. Ambiguous." MAMAMOO was commended along with their first single by the critics as one of the best K-pop debut group in 2014. Im not really sure what else to say, if anyone wants to talk to me about it, thats fine. Explore the latest videos from hashtags: #mamamooproblematic, #mamamooegotistic, #mamaproblematica, # . and I know it would've been much, much lower if I didn't force y'all to give the NMIXX songs an average of at least 3.00. }); Yes, I should have included more info and specified where I wasnt knowledgable. The company even took it down same day and cut it out so to make sure that it was offending people. You are entitled to your own opinion, and if what Mamamoo has done is considered too ignorant or rude for you to support them anymore, that is 100% in your right to not excuse them for it. RBW then said they would work to educate themselves more on cultural sensitivity and the struggles that the black community and various other POC communities have undergone and continue to go through. Hwasa, while covering the track, read the lyrics as is, leading to the gaffe. }); As the n-word is decidedly not of Asian-country origins it would make sense that she would not know the meaning of a English word that she is quickly seeing and then singing in a song, as it is a word which takes most, if not all, of its derogatory meaning from American context. asked one user while another tweet read, "Dark skin or brown skin men? }); Non fans for all the questions, suggestions, reviews, anything. | A Japanese Man Reacts to Duolingo Let's ask Shogo | Your. but this stuff isnt discussed when it comes to suju - people take anything and make it problematic for members who havent done things like kangin, shindong, leeteuk, and yesung, and then just throw it around to defend their favorites. Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. Because of mistakes that they've made out of ignorance, mistakes that they've apologized for. It arguably began around late 2018 Windflower era, when antis began to change Mamamoo's music video titles to racial slurs and death threats. document.querySelector("#google_image_div").addEventListener('click',function(){ One user shared, "HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT," along with a screenshot of some of their favorites, another said, "THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH," and one joked, "The gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall. They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. Contents 1 History 1.1 Pre-debut 1.2 2014: Debut with Hello, and Piano Man 1.3 2015: Pink Funky 1.4 2016: Melting, MOOSICAL and Memory 1.5 2017: MOOSICAL Curtain Call and Purple In the show, there are co-cast members Par Na Rae and Han Ye Jin. Honestly, I would want the person that I love to be more pretty or more handsome., Culturally appropriated a Native American headdress. I never thought it would gain the traction that it did and I dont feel comfortable running it at the moment, Im sorry. If you have anything else you wanna add/say, my ask box is open, but I probably wont reply until tomorrow because I really need to go to bed. They are known and respected by the general public, for their powerful vocals and performances, and can only go up in relevance from here. Mamamoo - Solar. eventAction: 'click_image_ads' pg.acq.push(function() { True, the haters just don't know them so they judge easily. Its blatantly homophobic and transphobic, like, there is no possible way you could deny that. Yes I should have included more context. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy K-pop stans w/o any receipts. Everyone seems to think that the world revolves around them. I included links to everything that was on the list (some of which had been deleted - another thing I messed up on big time) and with certain things, I did include a bit of extra information (e.g. Thats not fair to them at all and makes absolutely no sense. The show is about celebrities living their daily life alone. In 2017, Mamamoo created an ending concert video for moos (their fans), where they did a parody of Bruno Mars Uptown Funk. She was singing song lyrics from Melon (a Spotify-type South Korean streaming website), lyrics that had the n-word in them. So many public figures coming out and vouching for Mamamoos talent and success only continues to prove their worth and value to the world. eventAction: 'click_adunit' Not speaking Korean and being confused about whats true and what isnt? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It genuinely makes me sad that the kpop community hasn't changed since I left it in 2014 which is why I'm so reluctant to jump back into it and only really here to support MAMAMOO. And please send me a link when you upload the video, Id be interested in seeing your translation. The controversies surrounding Mamamoo sometimes hurt for sure, because you can tell that theyre pretty genuine in who they are without putting on too much of a show, arent out to get or hurt anyone, and are capable of realizing when they have made mistakes. mamamoo has been giving neck to neck competition to redvelvet but kpop fans always considered redvelvet above them because redvelvet is a sm group but now its time to accept the truth.. Mamamoo is easily gonna out live redvelvet, mamamoo members have resigned and will continue for long meanwhile redvelvet is pretty much done after irene scandal and no news of members re-signing because they . Im ironically bad at dealing with conflict, which might make some people question why I started this blog (it was actually an accident, long story), but Ive tried not to let it affect my running of this blog. Official MAMAMOO Thread cntrljinsung Jul 1, 2019 hwasa mamamoo moomoo moonbyul solar wheein MAMAMOO bais? Another chose to call out an even older incident, one in which Hwasa used the n-word while covering a Beyonc song. One tweet asked, "What we feeling today -er or -a? Siwon isnt the only member this has happened to, and I also understand that a lot of the time people take things out of context in order to justify hating on a specific member and its really frustrating. Theyre one of my favorite groups and its kind of annoying to see people say that Im not a fan just because I made the post. There are so many kids in the . window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotOnload', function(event) { Offensive Super Junior Masterpost. With reference to the Baekhyun-autism-comment issue, it has been a topic of much debate as many people have said that the korean word for autistic is similar to the korean word for defeated-i want to clarify that i do not speak korean so i cannot judge this myself-and that it was just a mistranslation. I included links to a post explaining why Siwons alleged homophobic comment was extremely dubious and likely to be untrue, though I guess I probably shouldnt have included it at all (I assumed people would go to the link). I didnt mean for this to spiral into an argument at all and I didnt post the post with malicious intent, though I know the intent doesnt matter all that much and that I did make mistakes. On Strong Heart Henry revealed that when he first came to Southkorea he thought his fellow members were gay and that Kim Heechul was transgender. Please think before you write these messages. In response to the criticisms of how I was presenting my information, they are valid criticisms. Maybe ive just checked really bad websites. She gets loads of comments drenched in colourism and misogyny about her genitals and looks its truly vomit worth. I dont make these lists with the intent of ruining the idols image or spreading misinformation (which by the way, if I do again, please call me out on it because otherwise I have no other way of knowing). Mamamoo is not the most problematic group ever I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people (so being black) I decided to some research to find out. Its so sad because I love them and hope they grow more internationally. And this links back to other instances of Hwasa being called out for cultural appropriation, the most recent being her wearing what appeared to be a traditional Nigerian outfit on the MBC show 'I Live Alone'. Some of the stuff I included turned out to be something I misunderstood (for example, the gifset of Siwon) and with other things, I didnt include enough information or included misinformation. Mamamoo's Hwasa has come under fire more than once after accusations of racism and cultural appropriation. According to Koreaboo, throughout the conversations, not a single person from their side attempted to make excuses for their actions. It's even harder these days.. anything can be taken out of context for example, they're banning "Baby It's Cold Outside" on the radio because some people feel the lyrics suggest date rape what a load of BS. Fandom Name - Moomoo Sub-Unit - Mamamoo+ Japanese Website Twitter Japanese Twitter Instagram YouTube Japanese YouTube Fan Cafe Tiktok Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. But i was told online that even after apologised that they did it again but I couldn't find anything that showed that the only thing I found was Solar doing a beggar impersonation SNL in 2016 but that's not blackface or colourism as I have seen people try to argue, as homeless do get dark or tanner as they are unable to clean themselves properly and are outside all the time. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Mamamoo is a 4 member girl group under Rainbow Bridge World whose members are Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein and Hwasa and they made their debut on 19th June 2014. media-tech companies with hubs around the world. #askhwasa pic.twitter.com/rqPYTIMaEL, And from there, the jokes just continued, "Biggie or Tupac?" For those of you who might not know, Mamamoo is a four girl idol group who debuted under RBW (Rainbowbridge World) in June of 2014. I will try to work on this in the future because I dont want to portray idols as villains when theyre not actually responsible for what has happened (e.g. Watch popular content from the following creators: natalie(@chuusvideogame), matching pfp with @asapminho(@ryyujinnn), Malaiya<3 (@soulspotato__), donnie<3(@twicesring), number one heejin stan(@realchaeyoungpark) . | by unchangingtruth | Medium Write Sign up Sign In 500 Apologies, but something went wrong on our end. Yes, we're all people, but idols are scrutinized for their every word and action, even much more so than non-celebrities). Yes, I should have checked the links. I just always feel the need to resolve something when I get into it and I could see where you were coming from (plus you made some valid criticisms) so I thought Id explain myself. Mobile +91-9466446612, +91-9728497962; Email info@pvginternationals.com; wow tanaan jungle questline; small planet airlines fleet; you've got mail bookstore name And that isnt even getting into the worst of it. Ngl I let out a couples laughs tho. Your question/message will be answered rudely or even deleted if you have not read the FAQ first. The world doesnt revolve around America and our issues, not everyone has their eyes on America 24/7. }); I didnt put in a lack of effort because its Super Junior though, if I had been making a BigBang masterpost instead, that would have been the one with little effort put into it. Having said that it was still wrong but I don't acquite it to a minstrel show or it have been in a mock manner and I am glad that they apologised and have learnt from that. offensive/misogynistic comments to his Cyworld account, Kai was in charge of skin color in the group, my noona is a little on the tanned side, no wonder why you guys acted like you were so close with each other, I thought the lights were not entering over there, said that he has Kai saved as Blackie in his phone contacts, in a pre-debut video with a hard -er at the end, how can you say something that doesnt even make sense?, Chanyeol asked Kai if he wanted to lighten his skin, Dont misunderstand us. heechul just wore a scarf on his head - thats not how anyone wears a hijab properly and white women have been doing that since like the 40s. }); Mamamoo's Hwasa has come under fire more than once after accusations of racism and cultural appropriation. This, combined with their Immortal Song wins, truly demonstrates just how much of an impact Mamamoo has, as their reach goes far beyond just kpop. I made an exo masterpost and since then Ive had a lot of messages from people telling me that they no longer feel that they can bias Chanyeol or Baekhyun, which is their own personal decision, and something that they chose based on information I provided. She made her solo debut with the single "Spit It Out" on April 23, 2020.She released her first extended play : Face with its . I did include apologies though, such as Shindongs, Kangins and Zhoumis. #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/h0oPUHVyku, Some, naturally, came to Hwasa's defense, pointing out that her, the rest of Mamamoo, as well as their label Rainbowbridge World (RBW), have all apologized or at the very least provided an explanation for their actions in the past. For hours the terms hwasa n-word, hwasa racist, hwasa ugly, hwasa dead, were the most common twitter terms in Hwasas searches, while Moos rushed around trying to tweet positive things and trend protective hashtags in response. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('impressionViewable', function(event) { It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). Yeah, the first thing international fans do is hear that Mamamoo is bad and that they shouldn't like them, and then they jump in on the hate without doing their own research. I'm sure I'm still unlearning a lot of things today. I wholeheartedly accept that I messed up on this and Im really sorry, because I feel like I sort of have a responsibility not to spread misinformation and thats exactly what I did. MAMAMOO () is a four-member girl group currently under RBW. You dont owe them anything in the lines of forgiveness, especially if you were one of the people they personally hurt with their past actions. One user tweeted, "HELP I dont like Hwasa but some of yall going a little too far, some of yall preach mental health but pick and choose who that applies too. Anyway, I hope this didnt come across as rude or anything, but I really need to go to sleep now. I know they've apologized for many of their other problems they faced but seriously, the hate is so overwhelming. there is nothing wrong with heechul thinking kris leaving exo was disrespectful - its his opinion, its not problematic. I dont really want this published but Im Korean and I just watched the SISTAR video and the translations are pretty accurate, Hyorin was trying to say how bora has all black fashion and her hair and black complexion adds on to it, and I felt that too (soyu was trying to suggest that hyorin had darker skin than bora so hyorin shouldnt talk about anyone elses skin color) so hyorin was like yeah but at least I dont wear black clothes like bora! So those are the most controversial things talked about that Mamamoo has done. Mamamoo member Hwasa is one of the most compelling female idols. Each controversy mamamoo has had is different from the next, yet people will hold a grudge and use any excuse to keep hating them. Please put a * at the end of the message if you don't want it published. If you haven't, let me enlighten you. MAMAMOO's Hwasa is a cast member in the MBS reality show I live Alone (literal translation). yeah, suju has done problematic stuff and i agree, we shouldnt defend it or excuse it, its good to have that kind of discussion. While MBC later clarified that the outfit was meant to be a glamorized version of the sauna outfits worn by South Koreans, particularly a style that Hwasa herself has worn before, many thought the outfit was far more similar to an African one than a Korean sauna look. Again I apologise for any of the harm I have caused with this blog, it was definitely unintentional, but thats no excuse. } I actually really appreciate people messaging me about stuff and talking it through with me, especially because I actually really dislike conflict (makes me wonder why I started this blog really haha). I don't think anything they have done has been malicious, however it was a product of maybe not being knowledgeable of what may be considered offensive to others. I feel like stepping back will give me more time to learn and expand my horizons and less time to speak on topics I dont actually know much about. window.googletag.cmd.push(function() { And when a few Moos did call other fandoms out on their abusive tweets, the response that night was majority she deserves it, or most common answer: its just a joke. Its not good when people exaggerate stuff (like they did with Siwon) but its good to keep discussions going on offensive things in kpop, 3) Thank you for the fanaccounts/links about the Siwon thing (Ill add them to the list), thats the kind of thing I appreciate being told because I am not omniscient and I dont know everything (Also I think I already had one of those on there?). It hurts my heart to see people bash them like that, it really does. Joined: Sep 2021 #1. Yes. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), when Lay said, When asked about his ideal type, said that she, He and Chen chose Kai and Tao as the members they wouldnt want to date if they were girls, when Chen was explaining why, Xiumin interrupted him and saidThey both have a similarity, theyre both tanned (, Posted a photograph of him in a face mask on Weibo and captioned it, Apparently there were some old online comments from Baekhyuns cyworld account where he called girls at his High School sluts but I cant find any screenshots, Chanyeol and Baekhyun apparently admitted to teasing the Chinese members at first for their pronunciation/korean and acted somewhat cold towards them, though I cannot find a source for this, Many people have said Chanyeol said his ideal type would have white/pale skin but I cant find a source on that so Im not sure, Some people have told me that Kris is sexist/misogynistic but I cant find anything about this online, I also vaguely remember seeing a picture of exo which one of the members wrote comments on and there was something about Kais skin being dark but I cant remember who it was (possibly Kai himself?) Maybe you are just too sensitive?? But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. Advanced Faker. I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. Mamamoo's "problematic" past (still robot voice, sorry sis) 325,340 views Sep 11, 2018 13K Dislike Share Chaennie Lisoo 38.1K subscribers In this video I take a look at one opinion in. ga('ads.send', { Also I see hate being normalised and even being defended its not hard if u don't want to forgive them then just ignore or block all mentions of them. And it appears they still hold her accountable for it, largely owing to past instances of appropriation, such as wearing a durag. I think this is one thing that remains somewhat undecided but considering Baekhyuns track record, I wouldnt put it past him tbh. Why? Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa. Everyone is welcome, fans and non-fans. kpop groups; soloists; socials and info; Back; kpop groups. For me, I think controversies and hate are just the unfortunate and difficult side that comes with being an idol. When you choose to spend that privilege constantly mocking and harassing people online, well, karma's going to come back to you, in some form or another. ", HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT pic.twitter.com/hfqIr5fn9w, THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/gEpnibGF9J, the gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall #AskHwasa, Baby Mia Jade Riley: Parents Lani and Tom Riley speak out after dog attack killed their 5-week-old infant, 'We have lots to reveal': Madeleine McCann lookalike Julia Wandelt posts footage of meeting with PI probing claims, Kyle Sambrook: Hiker falls 100ft to death while carrying his dog in one hand through 'appalling' weather, Killer mom Lindsay Clancy was suffering from drug withdrawal and had 'worst side effects,' says friend, Bruce Willis's mom Marlene 'not sure if her son still recognizes her' as 'aggressiveness' creeps in. }); They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. Joined: Mar 2022 #5. I very strongly believe that people can change and one action doesnt define them for the rest of their life, and if I dont include an apology in a post, its always going to be because I didnt know they apologised. I messed up, a lot, and I honestly do regret making the post. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. if henry said that the idea of his band mates being gay/transworried him, thats homophobic and transphobic. For the writer herself, she said she used to stan Mamamoo and doesn't anymore because of the problematic things they've done. Heechul put the scarf on his head as Gain was explaining why she chose to wear hers in a hijab style. I found out that they did blackface which is disgusting and heartbreaking cause I really liked them so I stewed on it for a few days and looked again and found that they had apologised that same day 2x and that they also apologised in person the next day concert. Moomoos are also quite reserved and a bit more mature so whenever Mamamoo is criticized, you have a small group of people rationally trying to defend them. pg.acq.push(function() { Ill probably look for another video of the same segment at some point but I dont have time right now. okay so before i start this list, i just wanna clarify: i am an exo stan. In fact, I really like them. Thanks for posting this. I encourage everybody to keep general discussion going, but for now, Im stepping out. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), document.querySelector("#adunit").addEventListener('click',function(){ Press J to jump to the feed. where henry addressed the gay thing (the trans thing wasnt included) and he doesnt seem to have said anything about it worrying him! Idols lives are super scrutinized, and I think many people just forget that idols are real people too. 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