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She filled out the forms went BARBARA HARRIS: Through all the training that we had to do and first aid, fingerprinted and had a background check done. Catch up with new episodes and hear classics from our archive. You just have to weigh it, is it worth it? ROBERT: Well, that's the good news, but unfortunately there is some bad news here. If you're a starving boy between 9 to 12 years old, now it doesn't matter a whole lot what happens to you after this, your grandchildren will have one-quarter the risk of heart disease. SAM KEAN: I should add too. Like Id be like, Weve got the keys, were gonna trash the house., Anyway, we think about that all the time and I was just talking to Lulu about that and she was just like, You know, theres a radiolab about this.. JAD: That is impossible, so far as we know, but there seems to be this layer on top of the genes. You know, when smart people say, you know, "There's no such thing as nature and nurture it's only interaction of the two," You're like, "What the hell does that mean?" JAD: But according to Kammerer, here's what happened when he heated up the toads little cage. ROBERT: So you think you can get deep down? SAM KEAN: Really slowly, gradually, achingly slowly. It would be wrong to think that they represent all women who use drugs while they're pregnant. PAT: I ended up finding myself really conflicted about it. MICHAEL MEANEY: Mom's licking activates serotonin. SAM KEAN: Because it would reflect badly on the Soviet state. She started to wish again that she could have a daughter. JAD: And I know fate is gonna give them a couple random mutations in those genes. CARL ZIMMER: She carries your kids for nine months and you're like, "That poor male toad.". CARL ZIMMER: He actually named his daughter Lacerta, which is a genus of lizard. But the story he told us begins around 25 years ago. ROBERT: According to Darwin, life and changes are ruled by chance. PAT: Even though Destiny's mom was doing all sorts of drugs during her pregnancy and the doctors told Barbara that Destiny was going to be mentally and physically delayed DESTINY HARRIS: Not feeling the way I'm supposed to feel. Even though Destiny's mom was doing all sorts of drugs during her pregnancy and the doctors told Barbara that Destiny was going to be mentally and physically delayed Not feeling the way I'm supposed to feel. They have found very similar effects for smoking, for instance. So he actually went to Vienna. Like, mine are bigger, you know." What do you mean? Or is it? Do you know anything about the other four? CARL ZIMMER: Yeah. DESTINY HARRIS: Honestly, I think it never seemed like she was anything but my real mom, if that makes sense. Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. And those lucky ones, according to Darwin's theory, they would have had to have been born with some random mutation in their genes That gave them an advantage in this situation. CARL ZIMMER: And he makes a very careful study of this hand. If you were a great rat mommy, what would you be doing with your rat baby? Kammerer thought, "Wow.". Maybe you can explain this to me, Robert. CARL ZIMMER: That's the kind of guy he is. I have to be creative.". [expletive] That was awesome. ROBERT: It's a little odd, actually. Thank you so much for your interest in Radiolab. All these women who have so many babies and never try to seek drug treatment. I'm almost done. Yes. It's only the mechanisms are not so clear. Yep, Im a professor in the faculty of medicine at McGill University in Montreal. Which, when you think about it, it has a very Lamarckian flavor. CARL ZIMMER: He's 22, 23, and he already had this reputation for being amazing at keeping animals alive, that otherwise would just die. [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: Whats this letter right here? ROBERT: So then the one that's in trouble, so thats one of one of eight? Sincerely, Jennifer.". PAT: Destiny says one day, she and her mom were in the car, and her mom said DESTINY HARRIS: She said, "I don't know, you know, maybe they'll grow bigger? BARBARA HARRIS: No, I've only had somebody call and say they regret that they didn't stay on birth control. You picked him up right from the hospital? But along with the support came attacks, particularly as drug-addicted women began to sign up. I wont say too much more except it includes one of my favorite kind of scientific parables that like Ive ever heard. Yeah, like you can help them overcome you. Did that scare you at all? [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: Well lets lets read the book first. Is that what you're saying? Each stone represents a radioisotope by means of a. So almost instantaneously, the mother's tongue has reached into the baby's brain cells. Take a look, explore and subscribe! The way she saw it, the state, the federal government, somebody Should say, "You're not doing this. JAD: Michael was in school and he got interested in a very, very basic question about how things get passed down? If you were a boy in verkalix between the ages of 9 and 12 years old, that's the window, 9 to 12, you're a boy, and then we have one of those terribly rough winters, and you're eating much less than normal. Who are they? I had a little basketball for her. JAD: It's off-limits. CARL ZIMMER: More information about Sloan at JAD: Yeah, we're exploring questions of lwhat can you pass down to your kids and their kids? Darwin's theory would have said, you know, 90% of the toads are going to die. ROBERT: Okay. JAD: Most toads, he says, love to stay in the water. And youre saying that part of the DNA is covered up? And she says oftentimes the women who want help have a really hard time finding it. Push yourself and you got it.". [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: I feel that they should all be sterilized. In just two generations, these toads seem to have done something that should have taken, I don't know, 50, 100 generations? She asked my opinion and that's what I'm giving. JAD: Theyd basically starve. Saying the mother had given birth to a baby girl, did we want her? LULU: So far. [laughs] Can you say, "Never, ever?" Once a kid is born, their genetic fate is pretty much sealed. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: At once and we're watching 40 litters at a time. Where sound illuminates ideas, and the boundaries blur between science, philosophy, and human experience. ROBERT: So if they saw somebody who was starving as a kid in 1820, they could then see, "Well, when those people had children and grandchildren, did anything change? JAD: Its an idea thats been kicking around for me since my kids were born. [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: Do you see the owl?]. She did. Look, in the end, what do I know? ROBERT: One-fourth? SAM KEAN: It was this struggle for a few years. MICHAEL MEANEY: I was an undergraduate student. ROBERT: By all accounts a pretty good-looking guy. PEJK MALINOVSKI: What does that mean, he was an idiot? You must have internet access to do this). All rights reserved. Well think about it, this is nature and nurture slamming into each other. Thats like, I mean, that seems like a thing that would be frightening. US $53.6 Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for VCM II Main Cable VCM2 16pin Cable VCM 2 OBD2 Cable VCM ii IDS V101 Data Cable at the best online prices at Free shipping for many products At the Vivarium, as the name suggests, they have live animals. Sincerely, Jennifer.". We'll just be honest. When they got another call from a social worker saying that same mother, Destiny's birth mother, had given birth to another child. More what kind of stuff? This was a really radical place at the time because you have to remember that people studying animals up till now, they were basically studying preserved specimens, and so on. In this episode, originally aired in 2012, we put nature and nurture on a collision course and discover how outside forces can find a way inside us, and change not just our hearts and minds, but the basic biological blueprint that we pass on to future generations. He's not even eating at all. MICHAEL MEANEY: Yes. Go to him. ], I'd like everybody to meet, please, Barbara Harris. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: Why? So he's got to live his life as a toad with all this baggage on him? In pictures, he has that, you know, that crazy Einstein fuzzy hair thing. JAD: Well, if a mother a rat mother licking her baby can have such a profound effect, basically change the expression of the genes in the baby, well that's hopeful. JAD: But were gonna play you stories where JAD: This is Radiolab. So moms licking activates serotonin, and it's released onto brain cells in the hippocampus. Move on to the next cage, yes, no? People can't just will themselves into a more perfect form. I'm Executive Director and Founder of National Advocates for Pregnant Women. As he's doing his rounds, he stops by the midwife toad terrarium, he looks down at that little male toad with grapes stuck to his legs and he wonders, "How adaptable is that little guy?" PAT: And all over the political spectrum, from Hollywood lefties to social conservatives. That's what good rat mothers do, they lick their babies a lot. JAD: Who now works at Columbia University. Now the Sweden story from our last segment left us both feeling a little strange. His famous example was giraffes. BARBARA HARRIS: This is 750 and this is 200. I mean, were not gonna do that ourselves. PAT: In this magazine article, Barbara even said, quote, "We don't allow dogs to breed. Once a kid is born, their genetic fate is pretty much sealed. Move on to the next cage yes, no? Thanks to Olov Bygren, reporter Pejk Malinovski and Karin Borgkvist Ljung, and I'm a senior archivist at the National Archive in Marieberg in Stockholm. So now, the genes can make the proteins that make the rats a good mom? Well, he thought it might have been an assistant trying to frame him because he was Jewish. No, not brain cells. Visit our website. [ARCHIVAL Clip, Daytime Talkshow: You know what they're going to go do with that money. I'm the founder and director of Project Prevention. Also, thanks to Carl Zimmer whose latest is Evolution: Making Sense of Life. Right below the headlines says, "Scientist's great discovery which may change us all.". JAD: I mean, were not gonna do that ourselves. DESTINY HARRIS: No, she was an oops kid. SAM KEAN: Very easily. So its like grandpa's struggle is jumping forward and giving me a leg up? ROBERT: That's interesting. But I take it that we have more control over our destinies and our kids' destinies than we would've thought. SAM KEAN: He extended this idea to people. And the key point is that it wasnt something inborn in them. I just saw them as child abusers. As a parent, you are a tiny blip in a very, very, long story. Okay, you want to say bye? PAT: Yeah. BARBARA HARRIS: And when I found out the bill didn't pass, I just thought, "I have to come up with something else. It's a very different kind of front line, where urgent work means moving slow, and time is marked out in tiny pre-planned steps. His example with humans was a blacksmith. JAD: So heres the backstory. It would be wrong to think that they represent all women who use drugs while they're pregnant. Mamaw was the one I'd come to see. DESTINY HARRIS: Yes. BARBARA HARRIS: Since birth. Twitter: @wnycradiolab Language: English Contact: WNYC Radio 160 Varick St. New York, NY 10013 (646) 829-4000 Website: http://www.wnyc.org/shows/radiolab/ Email: radiolab@wnyc.org Episodes Golden Goose 2/17/2023 More Well, I mean, Hitler thought that if you were Jewish, that you had given up the right to be a mother and hed sterilize people as well. [chuckles], OLOV BYGREN: Yes, yes. PAT: And at a certain point, I noticed over my shoulder Barbara's crouched down and she's got her phone out and she's taking a picture of this just perfect little scene. And so, you could only see one nuptial pad, and it all comes down to thisand all of that was just about to fall apart. So heres the backstory. LYNN PALTROW: Well, her explanation is that these women are having, in her terms, litters of damaged babies and society forever will be responsible for them. ROBERT: I wonder. I know what I'll do, I'm going to set up a terrarium for them and I'm going to make it hot, really uncomfortably hot. He is passionate about scholarly writing, World History, and Political sciences. PAT: Yeah. ROBERT: Rewrite their their blueprint? That's the stuff that makes you you. ], This could mean sterilization, it could mean getting an IUD.]. I mean that's a different kind of odds, but its DESTINY HARRIS: Hi, this is Destiny Harris. So that's fun. You must have internet access to do this). Not only that. He extended this idea to people. PAT'S MOM: Radiolab is produced by Jad Abumrad. They willed the neck to get longer, the muscles to get bigger. So. That was amazing. JAD: What happens, it'll get stuck to one little part of the DNA and now that little bit of DNA FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: Is very difficult to get at. She'll be two in January. ROBERT: Cause we were talking to science writer, Carl Zimmer, and he told us that back in the early 1900s, this tension between Lamarck and Darwin got extra tense. And she says, one day, this idea just came to her. Nice, cool water. And Barbara is not offering that. And she told Barbara, "There's something you need to know about this baby.". PAT: It would be wrong to assume the women Barbara talks about on TV [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: These women don't just have one and two babies. PEJK MALINOVSKI: It's not very politically correct, huh? If your grandpa didn't starve, instead he lived through great times. I just didnt think. Whole lifetime of stretching. So the great rat nightmare comes true where the females become their mothers. Kick off certain hormonal systems. JAD: I know! DESTINY HARRIS: My situation turned out positive. And I was a waitress, I worked for IHOP for over 30 years. Are there people whose drug use is so out of control they can't parent? It's against the rules. Your support helps Radiolab continue to provoke, delight, and keep audiences curious. She'll be two in January. Birth mother's name was actually the same as me, so, Barbara. I know I've been joking a lot in this interview, but I mean it with all that I am. It was something they acquired during their lifetime. ROBERT: Okay, so lets get going and stick with your boy, Lamarck, just for a sec. She's somewhere, but it's not good from what we've heard. I mean, it's pretty common but like, here's a for instance, my dad from my entire life had this thing where if someone was whistling, he would. We went to the foster home and went in. Kinda makes me claustrophobic. I asked Barbara about some of the things that she'd said because, to be totally honest, they kind of turn my stomach. PAT: And Barbara found herself returning to a thought she'd kind of always had. This, of course, is Destiny. ROBERT: I think what's weird here is that is that we started trying to make a difference in our children and now we're surprise attacked by our grandparents. ROBERT: If your grandpa didn't starve, instead he lived through great times. "I want to thank you for your support and kindness as always." Lynn has become one of Barbara's fiercest critics. Like shed give the women a choice. That's really impressive. He said, "If you were a boy, and you starve between the ages of 9 and 12, and then you went on to become a father, then a grandfather, your grandkids". We'll just get one more.". Still, that's a burden that, he's carrying a big burden there. Its a terrible thought! They decided to explore this question. Barbara Harris says she's convinced more than a dozen women], Have accepted her offer to be sterilized in return for money.]. I'm not saying that these women are dogs but they're not acting any more responsible than a dog in heat. Really slowly, gradually, achingly slowly. New York Public Radio transcripts are created on a rush deadline, often by contractors. Because while you might have a lot of influence, you know, genetically speaking, over your kids and their kids, you don't seem to have a lot of control. Stick around. Transcripts and recorded audio may be available for many of the programs you hear on WNYC. What happens, it'll get stuck to one little part of the DNA and now that little bit of DNA And these things are called, apparently, methyl groups. Your boys will first grow taller and taller for the next few years, and when they get to be about 9, 10 years old, they're going to stop growing just for a few years. I find myself thinking like, Okay, I know these kids have their genes half from me, half from my wife. PAT: And according to Barbara, the majority of the women she pays are white. CARL ZIMMER: I know what I'll do, I'm going to set up a terrarium for them and I'm going to make it hot, really uncomfortably hot. I know I've been joking a lot in this interview, but I mean it with all that I am. JAD: Because while you might have a lot of influence, you know, genetically speaking, over your kids and their kids, you don't seem to have a lot of control. ROBERT: If you were a great rat mommy, what would you be doing with your rat baby? That doesn't matter. Filled with dozens of letters from women that she's paid. This lady right here is still taking drugs and she could be pregnant again next month.]. This great. Because there is more data, more information about the people of verkalix, going farther back into the past than you can find almost anywhere else on Earth. Yeah. Or is it? Barbara started finding herself on panels with women who'd use drugs during their pregnancies. Four or five steps later, we are in JAD: So almost instantaneously, the mother's tongue has reached into the baby's brain cells. ROBERT: You wonder, where did that come from? Or does it get passed on such a deep level that doesn't even require teaching? JAD: Hey, wait. It might be a mixture. One parent stretching isnt going to do anything, see thats the bummer of Darwinian evolution. She should be with me. You know what they're going to go do with that money. He was born in 1880 in Vienna, Jewish family. When I started spending some time with Destiny, Barbara's 22-year-old daughter. But with the midwife toad, the female SAM KEAN: Lays her eggs on land and then the male midwife toad comes along SAM KEAN: And actually kind of sticks them to his back legs, like a bunch of whitish grapes, and then hops around with them basically until they hatch. I had everybody's abuse on my back and I didn't care how we said it, or how we did it. Enhancing public understanding of science and technology Yeah, we're exploring questions of lwhat can you pass down to your kids and their kids? I don't think that puts me in the same category as Hitler. CARL ZIMMER: He was mighty skeptical. That was it. Where we sought, they will find. Okay. CARL ZIMMER: Is your wife going to hear this? JAD: And very often, one of them will just go crashing into the DNA and it'll stick there like a barnacle or a glob of peanut butter. He was really one of the first grand theorists in biology. OLOV BYGREN: They didn't have grains. JAD: People can't just will themselves into a more perfect form. JAD: Many years later, he and this woman. Support Radiolab by becoming a member of The Lab today. OLOV BYGREN: It was very interesting discovery. PAT: As Barbara made the rounds on the daytime talk shows, the reaction was split right down the middle. ROBERT: Including a particular amphibian that plays a very big part in this story. Well, yep, that is so true. [chuckles], Yes, yes. He thought that you could kind of engineer societies by changing the environment. ROBERT: Inheritance, what you can move on to the next generation and what you can't. The reason they're more aroused is that the mom's licking activates the release of adrenaline and noradrenaline in the pup. Like, "How did this happen? They present previous theories on evolution and then present the currently accepted Darwinian Theory of Evolution. Just to be sure, we asked Frances Champagne what she thinks of this data. JAD: If they see methyl groups sitting on that bit of DNA, they are pissed. PEJK MALINOVSKI: He was an idiot. JAD: Wait, when you say they can choose to be sterilized, you mean permanent? And what about the four kids that weren't raised with Barbara? He stuffed himself silly; 9, 10, 11 years old, so he's a happy grandpa, you the grandson, you then would have. Maybe like those methyl things we were telling you about with the rats. Sample Page; ; JAD: Well, its offensive. In this episode, originally aired in 2012,we put nature and nurture on a collision course and discover how outside forces can find a way inside us, and change not just our hearts and minds, but the basic biological blueprint that we pass on to future generations.Support Radiolab by becoming a member ofThe Labtoday. 10 Controversial And Thought-Provoking 'Radiolab' Episodes. Okay, you want to say bye? 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